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Don't be alarmed, but be prepared
Korean War II
Don't be alarmed, but be prepared
May 27 2010, 07:17 PM :: #1
I don't know how much coverage this gets in your American media, but it's obviously on the front page everyday here in South Korea. This whole business started on one of our Friday (I think) beer and chicken delivery nights when breaking news came on the TV reporting that a warship, the Cheonan was sinking in the Yellow Sea. That was March 26th. It was pretty quiet until the investigation team came on TV to blame the North.

In the past week or two, the situation has been escalating. I got an email from the Canadian Embassy telling me that the danger level has not changed, but just in case, they sent evacuation and emergency preparedness information. http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/korea...e.aspx?lang=eng

Important things:

- Four North Korean subs disappear from satellite imgery http://bit.ly/dtXbnP (Yonhap News)

- North Korean soldiers told to get ready for combat http://bit.ly/96PV4R (Chosun Ilbo)

- North Korea plans to cancel non-aggression agreement http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10160187.stm (BBC)

- Seoul to resume propaganda broadcasts with huge speakers along the DMZ - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100525/ap_on_...orea_ship_sinks


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May 27 2010, 07:19 PM :: #2
Here's the email:

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Dear Canadian Citizen,

In May 2010, a multinational investigation team concluded that North Korea (DPRK) was responsible for the sinking of a South Korean warship resulting in 46 casualties. The evolving political response is likely to cause even greater inter-Korean tensions, which could escalate into other forms of confrontation. This situation has been extensively covered by international news media over the last week.

For the moment, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada has not changed the risk level for the two countries nor released any official warning. The Canadian Embassy to Korea is closely monitoring the situation and will advise the Canadian community in Korea of developments as required. As the situation evolves, you are advised to consult the Travel Report for South Korea for up-to-date information.

Canadians are encouraged to maintain their level of readiness to cope with any emergency situation. It is recommended that:

you ensure that your travel documents, including your passport, are valid;
you have registered with the online Registry of Canadians Abroad (ROCA) and/or updated your registration with your latest information.

Please see the weblinks below for additional information:

Travel report-up-to-date information about Korea
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/countries_pays/rep...g.asp?id=153000

Registry of Canadians Abroad
https://www.voyage2.gc.ca/Registration_insc...nDsAOImpW8w6161

How to obtain a passport
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/korea...t.aspx?lang=eng

Emergency evacuation
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/korea...e.aspx?lang=eng

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/faq/evacuations-eng.asp

We hope that this information will be helpful to you,


Your Consular team

Embassy of Canada

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May 27 2010, 07:29 PM :: #3
There has been enough reporting that I knew that tensions between North and South Korea were rising. I also knew about the Cheonan sinking and that North Korea is allegedly behind it. (I assume that the accusation is true, but I'm no investigator or anything.)

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May 28 2010, 03:22 AM :: #4
Yeah, we hear some stuff, but not much at all.

I've been wondering what the general population of Seoul is doing...
Are people packing up and heading south?
If so, are they doing so to "go visit relatives" or flat out saying "I'm getting out of here!"
and if it is happening, is it to the extent that companies are shutting down?

How does the military work there?
Is everyone trained to fight (like in Israel)?
Are there 'reserves'? have they been called up yet?

What about the equivalent of a "Civil Defense?"
Bomb shelters?
Are there set plans in place? (everyone should have a 'kit' with the following items:____")

Registering with your embassy is a good idea -- they will work to get you out. I recall hearing how the Swedish government used SMS to get people out of Beirut during the last attacks. The cool part is they somehow found a way to broadcast messages to anyone in the area that was roaming back to a Swedish carrier -- so even tourists who hadn't registered would get the message.

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May 28 2010, 05:55 AM :: #5
Koreans don't really worry about war anymore.

The North has been posturing for years. Neither government actually wants a war. Especially the North. They couldn't afford it. Also, Kim Jong-Il is dying, and he is trying to slide his son into position as a legitimate military leader. This can't be done unless South Korean blood has been drawn. They are maneuvering their Navy like they are going to attack, and setting up along the DMZ to give a perception of firepower. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kim Jong-Il silently passes the helm over to one of his sons before this is over.

The South / USFK are also posturing by having Naval exercises and live-fire exercises near the DMZ. The South Korean government doesn't want to put up with the bullshit anymore, so they need to remind the North (and the citizens of the South) that the combined firepower of the the forces could level Pyongyang in an evening.

Many Koreans also feel that the result of this investigation also coincides too coincidentally with the election in June. If Lee Myung-bak's (the President) party can diffuse the situation, and show enough strength in the face of adversity, it will give them a lot of credibility. Further, to most citizens the US Army is not welcome in Korea, and they also need an event which will support their cause in the face of plans to scale back the troop size and hand over full control to the South Korean government.


Military

Every Korean male must complete two years of military service before they turn thirty. So, yes everyone is trained. Further, every year (up to a certain age), men must return for compulsory training. Every man is a reserve.

When this training is happening, flags go up all along major streets which read "민방위" - Civil Defense. It reminds people of their safety. Also, on some bridges, or at the entrance to certain districts or "Gu" (Japanese, -ku) there are flags which mark this location as being loyal to the Republic of Korea (South Korea) in case of war.

Many of the sailors who served on the Cheonan were young men (18-30) serving their military service.

Shelters + Emergency plans

Designated shelters exist all over Korea and are marked by signs that say "대피소" (dae-pi-so). This includes all underground subway stations. I am sure there are evacuation procedures which I don't know about. Every 6 months or so, they have earthquake drills which simultaneously throughout Seoul cars are stopped, sirens go off, and police commanders take over the radio. I am sure this system would be used in wartime.

Also..

There is a hotline, 111, which you call if you suspect someone is a spy or a threat to national security. It scrolls every so often on the subway displays.

Something I missed? I don't know everything, and I will ask about the emergency plans.

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May 28 2010, 06:33 PM :: #6
QUOTE(Procyin @ May 28 2010, 04:55 AM) *
Every Korean male must complete two years of military service before they turn thirty.


I'll add that this training is supposed to happen immediately after high school, but it can be deferred for a few years fairly easily (or so I've heard from various high school age Koreans).

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May 28 2010, 07:20 PM :: #7
QUOTE(Matsuri @ May 29 2010, 09:33 AM) *
I'll add that this training is supposed to happen immediately after high school, but it can be deferred for a few years fairly easily (or so I've heard from various high school age Koreans).


Yeah. I hear it is generally served after the first year of university. Also, recently I have learned that you cannot defer after you turn 28, because Rain has recently received a draft notice, but got a special exception, so he can defer it for one more year.

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May 28 2010, 08:45 PM :: #8
Wow, the compulsory training is an interesting fact that I never knew.

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May 28 2010, 11:06 PM :: #9
Oh man, this situation is intense. I wonder how this will affect the rest of the world; it can't be as isolated as it might seem.

I didn't know PROCYIN was in KOREA.

I'm applying to teach English in KOREA so I wonder how this will affect that...I wanted to go
for life experience, but I don't want to put myself in the middle of a possible war.

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May 29 2010, 08:00 PM :: #10
Oh there will be no war! It's politics, HEDO. Let me know what's going on with your applying.

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May 31 2010, 05:51 PM :: #11
Are you sure? You even titled this thread with war.
I'm looking to submit my application today. I was being
held up, waiting for the second recommendation letter
i needed. The deadline is june 15th, and I think i'll know by the end of the month or sometime
in july if i'm accepted.
I feel underqualified, and that i am submitting the application closer to the
deadline doesn't help. Really, i only have my bachelor's (just got it in march),
and two semesters of tutoring experience at the college. I'm hoping to use
my experience as an immigrant learning a second language in america and
my ambitions as a fiction writer to distinguish myself a bit.

what are you over there for?

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Jun 1 2010, 09:21 AM :: #12
QUOTE(HEDOfloe @ May 31 2010, 04:51 PM) *
what are you over there for?

He's over there for the coffee delivered by college-age girls.

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Jun 2 2010, 08:08 PM :: #13
Ahh, of course.

=)

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Jun 2 2010, 09:05 PM :: #14
I am here on a secret mission! You will never know! Unless you come here and I will tell you.

Addressing the title, I wanted to make a catchy headline..

Actually, since the election is over, and the President's party lost a lot of power, it turns out the plan for using War to help them gain power has failed..

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Jun 3 2010, 06:41 AM :: #15
The people weren't terrorized enough, it seems.

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